Kent Bottles: Is the Internet Good or Bad for You?
June 21, 2010 at 1:36 pm jimtrevis 16 comments
Paro the robot baby harp seal was the final straw. I had vowed to myself not to think about or write about “the internet makes you smarter, the internet makes you dumber” argument. Even when some of my favorite authors (Steven B. Johnson, Clay Shirky, Nicholas Carr, and Jonah Lehrer) weighed in, I thought it best not to participate.
And then I read about Paro, either “a disturbing turn in our treatment of the elderly or the best care-giving gadget since the Clapper.” This $6,000 Japanese robot is approved by U.S. regulators as a Class 2 medical device, and some believe it soothes dementia patients and helps them communicate. The non-profit Danish Technological Institute has encouraged every Danish nursing home to get a Paro, and Danish filmmaker Phie Ambo featured the robot in her Mechanical Love documentary. (http://ow.ly/21cj7) Isn’t Denmark supposed to be a model for the U.S. of what wired medicine will look like in the future? Maybe the Danes are on to something.
Not so fast say others who worry about the Paro on ethical grounds. “If we wind up with nursing homes full of baby-seal robots, the robots will be trying to fulfill the relationship piece of care giving, while the humans are running around changing the beds,” states Dr. Bill Thomas of the Green House Project. MIT’s Sherry Turkle asks, “Why are we so willing to provide our parents, then ourselves, with faux relationships?” (http://ow.ly/21cj7)
Are all these disruptive technologies and changes a good thing or a bad thing?
A recent New York Times/CBS News poll found that some Americans think computers and smart phones are intrusive, increase their level of stress, and make it difficult to concentrate. Almost 30% of those under 45 said the use of these devices made it harder to concentrate and focus. (http://ow.ly/21bop)
The wife of a California software entrepreneur whose professional and personal life revolves around the Internet says, “It seems like he can no longer be fully in the moment.” Scientists note that responding instantly to emails, tweets, and phone calls provokes excitement by stimulating dopamine squirts in the brain that can become addictive. (http://ow.ly/21cow)
“The technology is rewiring our brain,” said Nora Volkow of the National Institute of Drug Abuse, and she compares the lure of digital stimulation to our need for food and sex, which are essential but counterproductive in excess. (http://ow.ly/21cow)
Eyal Ophir of Stanford has done some important studies on the human ability to multitask. Multitaskers have trouble filtering out irrelevant information, take longer to switch among tasks, are more sensitive to incoming new information, and cannot shut off multitasking tendencies even when they are not multitasking. We all think we are great at multitasking, but studies show our performance suffers in several ways. (http://ow.ly/21cow)
I would bet that Clifford Nass of Stanford is not going to buy a Paro seal for his elderly parents. Nass is worried about heavy technology use diminishing our capacity for empathy by limiting how much people engage with each other, even in the same room. “The way we become more human is by paying attention to each other. It shows how much you care. We are at an inflection point. A significant fraction of people’s experiences are now fragmented.” (http://ow.ly/21cow)
The latest champion of this pessimistic view is Nicholas Carr, the author of The Shallows: What the Internet Is Doing to Our Brains. I ordered a hard copy of it on Amazon and read it. (Full disclosure: I do not own a Kindle or an iPad yet.) I learned about the book by reading a Wall Street Journal article by Carr titled “Does the Internet Make You Dumber?” (http://ow.ly/21cuy)
Carr is worried that easy access to unprecedented amounts of information is harming our ability to focus the mind and sustain concentration. He references the UCSF neuroscientist Michael Merzenich who believes our brains are being “massively remodeled” by our use of the Web and related media. He also compares the cognitive effects of the Internet (scattering our attention) with the printed book (focusing our attention). For Carr, to read a book is to practice an unnatural, but useful, process of thought that is essential for us to develop rich thoughts, memories, and personalities.
Steven Johnson’s Everything Bad Is Good For You (New York: Riverhead Books, 2005) covers similar ground, but comes up with a far different conclusion. Johnson wonders how we would judge reading if it had come after video games.
Reading books chronically under stimulates the senses. Unlike the longstanding traditions of game playing – which engages the child in a vivid, three-dimensional world filled with moving images and musical sound scapes, navigated and controlled with complex muscular movements – books are simply a barren string of words on the page. Only a small portion of the brain devoted to processing written language is activated during reading, while games engage the full range of the sensory and motor cortices. Books are tragically isolating…
Johnson, the writer of several books, goes on and on with tongue firmly planted in his cheek showing how today’s popular culture is actually better than reading.
Nothing in the last five years has seemed to change Johnson’s mind because he recently wrote approvingly about Amazon’s “popular highlights” where Kindle readers can see what passages other readers thought important. Reading is becoming social, according to Johnson (http://ow.ly/21b2K)
Jonah Lehrer, the author of the excellent How We Decide, gets in on the discussion by reviewing Carr’s book for the New York Times Book Review. For Lehrer the preponderance of scientific evidence shows that the Internet and related technologies are good for the mind. However, he salutes Carr for documenting the losses that accompany new technologies: “The rise of the written text led to the decline of oral poetry; the invention of movable type wiped out the market for illuminated manuscripts; the television show obliterated the radio play.” (http://ow.ly/21d6b)
In a blog, Lehrer writes, “Carr and I might disagree about the science, but I think we both agree that the act of engaging with literature is an essential element of culture. (It might not be ‘good’ for my brain, but it’s certainly good for the mind). We need Twitter and The Waste Land.” (http://scienceblogs.com/cortex/2010/06/the_shallows.php)
Did you really think Clay Shirky would stay out of this fight? I am only half way through his new book Cognitive Surplus: Creativity and Generosity in a Connected Age, but I already know which dog he is betting on. Luckily for me, he summarized his latest thinking for the Wall Street Journal in an article titled “Does the Internet Make You Smarter?” For Shirky the essential insight is that a billion people are now connected into the same network, and these amateurs are now creating content and not just consuming it. (http://ow.ly/21dKU)
Shirky says the case for digitally driven stupidity assumes that the recent past was an irreplaceable high-water mark of intelligence, that the present is only represented by the silly stuff, and that young people will fail to invent cultural norms that do for the Internet’s abundance what the intellectuals of the 17th century did for print culture. (http://ow.ly/21dKU)
He notes that the recent past was dominated by TV not intellectual achievement, and the present has created useful innovations like patient-driven social media sites. “It is tempting to want PatientsLikeMe without the dumb videos, just as we might want scientific journals without erotic novels, but that’s not how media works.” (http://ow.ly/21dKU)
Harvard’s Steven Pinker also comes down on the side of “these technologies are the only things that will keep us smart.” He observes that new forms of media always cause moral panic, but he also notes that when comic books in the 1950s were accused of creating juvenile delinquents, crime rates were going down, not up. (http://ow.ly/21eaQ)
“These days scientists are never far from their e-mail, rarely touch paper and cannot lecture without PowerPoint. If electronic media were hazardous to intelligence, the quality of science would be plummeting. Yet discoveries are multiplying like fruit flies, and progress is dizzying.” (http://ow.ly/21eaQ)
If I had found Nick Bilton’s excellent bits blog “The Defense of Computers, the Internet, and Our Brains” sooner, I would probably not have concentrated so much of my energy and focus trying to make sense of this argument. You should probably check out his take on this discussion. (http://ow.ly/21el8)
So where does that leave me with Paro, the cute little seal robot that seems to comfort some old people in nursing homes with dementia? I don’t like Paro because it is not alive and is not a genuine harp seal puppy. I would prefer that all old people with dementia have a caring human being to be there for them. If a human is not available for whatever reason, I would prefer that a live puppy be there to cuddle. (Full disclosure, I love bichons, two in particular). If people and puppies are not available, I see no reason not to use Paro.
Holding her seal robot, Lois Simmeth, 73, who lives in a Pittsburgh nursing home says, “I love animals. I know you’re not real but somehow, I don’t know, I love you.” (http://ow.ly/21cj7) Love is good, plain and simple.
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e-Patient Dave | June 21, 2010 at 2:04 pm
I only have a moment so I only read the first part of this but I gotta say I disagree wholeheartedly with “faux relationships.” I love human-to-human relationships but at some point I start to think that even our leading thinkers (or at least our most popular authors) can have an unwitting Luddite streak … or at least a socially conservative streak, as in “I see no reason why things need to be any different than when I was growing up.”
One could say that clothing is “faux simian fur.” Or alarm clocks are a dysfunctional adaptation to our being unable to wake with the chickens.
I’m skewed because the very first time I went away with Doc Tom Ferguson’s gang for a weekend, somebody brought along a Pleo dinosaur. What we immediately saw was that its pre-programmed responses to touch and heat (through its sensitive skin and heat sensor) were engaging. I sensed “Hey, one of these could be programmed to wake up at 3 pm, sniff out where Grandma is, crawl up in her lap, and pop open a pill dispenser.”
Faux? Feh.
Gimme an argument other than “We didn’t USE to do [whatever] that way, so it’s not real.”
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Phil Baumann | June 21, 2010 at 3:13 pm
Everything comes down to context in process – I don’t think anyone can say that any given technology is in itself a good or an evil.
If paro is deployed in the context of a larger caring environment, to be used as an *enchancement* of or to existing caring processes, then it would make perfect sense to use it (him? her?) if the benefits to patients are definite.
We are surrounded by technology more than we know: the practice of medicine or nursing is a kind of technology of caring (it’s more I know). Technology is an integral part of modern caring.
The question isn’t whether these are good or bad, but rather how can we integrate and dovetail them with human caring.
BTW for one of the fullest attempts at putting technology into perspective, check out John Naughton’s piece – http://bit.ly/dxAGDB
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e-Patient Dave | June 22, 2010 at 8:43 am
Phil, you get a Davey Award for that John Naughton piece http://bit.ly/dxAGDB. At first it’s not easy to slog through but its nine subheads just got bookmarked as my go-to reference to explain to people the deep structural significance of the internet.
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Paul Roemer | June 21, 2010 at 7:07 pm
That’s quite a mindful—my email just beeped and my MP3 died, so I am going to put this on hold for a second.
Where were we? A few observations if I may. Instead of concluding we have difficulty being in the moment, since the way we’ve lived since the infusion of all digital all the time, perhaps the meaning of being in the moment has changed. Were there similar discussions at the invention of the phone, the radio, the turntable, and the television? Goodness knows did not we go through many of the same changes—listening to the radio while doing homework, watching TV while conversing with family?
On the issue of multi-tasking, studies suggest we are able to function less effectively while being mutli. Does that not depend somewhat on the nature of the task? Let us consider the question, function less at what. If it has to do with a task of doing ones taxes while checking email and speaking on the phone; that may be true. If the same functions are considered in light of someone who hates doing their taxes, and has no pressing deadline, no hard stop, perhaps the diversions make the onerous task seem a little less so.
Perhaps there are certain tasks we were unable to do before the internet engulfed our approach to our waking hours. Perhaps, there are tasks made easier by multi-tasking. I can be in a group discussion on Google Wave, giving assignments. The group can be updating and discussing a presentation stored in a cloud—all in real-time. While downloading a .rar file of a chapter of an audio book for a key deliverable, instead of having to rush to Borders and read it, I may have Pandora running in the background, and may get a text message from someone in the group about a comment they did not wish to share with the group.
That same group can be assigned individual tasks to be completed within the next twenty-four hours. Members will be assigned to “post” their deliverables to the group at various times for individual comment, and a final meeting invite will be sent by the last person to finish their task. Pretty efficient. Certainly better than the days when we felt fortunate simply to be able to FedEx a draft of the deliverables to each of the members, some of whom are overseas, and wait 48 hours to view their feedback.
Perhaps the relevancy of good versus bad internet depends more on what you are trying to do. Some people who have self-diagnosed ADHD—I barely have time to focus on having AD, let alone all four letters—may find this a blessing. I have the attention span of a half-life of a fruit fly. I bore easily, and on occasion bore others easily. Stuck in this digital cornucopia, I am able to function at a higher level.
As I write this, I have eleven browser windows open, am synching my cell phone, downloading music on LimeWire, am working on a new blog post—not this one, and writing the first two chapters of my book on leadership. This approach relaxes me. If I had to do just one of those knowing I could not do something else until the first was complete, I’d be in therapy.
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Bill Yates | June 21, 2010 at 11:45 pm
Great post Kent! Very provocative. I would vote strongly the internet is good for you. I feel so fortunate to live in a time where I can post comments that are available around the world and archived to be accessed for many years. Can this be misused? Sure, but I think the benefits clearly outweigh the risk.
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Paul Roemer | June 22, 2010 at 8:50 am
Here’s a post I wrote a years ago about the power of the internet for social media that ties to what you wrote.
The web never ceases to amaze me. I’ve gotten to the point that if I can’t find something I’m looking for, no matter how obscure, I figure I did something wrong in how I framed the search.
For example, I was trying to connect to a high school classmate, someone I hadn’t spoken with since before Al Gore invented the internet. This guy got a pair of boxing gloves for his 14th birthday. We each wore one, and jousted only long enough for us each to land a blow on the other’s nose. It hurt—a lot. We gave up boxing. In tenth grade biology, we bet him five dollars that he wouldn’t jump out of the second floor window. The teacher, who knew of the bet, turned her back to write on the blackboard. He jumped. Go straight to the office, do not pass GO, do not collect $200. We used to see how fast his red and white Mach II Mustang would go railing down Route 40. He was the guy you voted best person to keep away from bright shiny objects. The last I heard he went to a teaching college.
Anyway, I Googled him—from the imperative verb Google—I Google, you Google, he, she or it Googles. I can’t tell you his name for reasons that will soon become apparent. Google returns links to things like military intelligence, think tank, counterinsurgency, small wars, and army major. I think I’ve made a spelling mistake and add his middle initial to the search criteria. Up pops a link to CNN’s Larry King. The topic of the show, the hunt for Osama Bin Laden. To quote Lewis Carroll, “things keep getting curiouser and curiouser.”
The web. Social networking. A great tool if you’re one the outside searching, deadly in the hands of your customers. If your firm is targeted, you are pretty much defenseless. Each customer is capable of creating its own digital perception of your firm. True or false, makes no difference. They’re like little thunderstorms popping up everywhere. Companies scurry around like frightened mice passing out umbrellas and pretending it’s not raining. They’re late, their customers are wet, and they are telling everyone. Very few firms have learned that they can’t put the rain back into the clouds.
Sort of reminds me of the line in the movie Young Frankenstein, “Could be worse, could be raining.” It’s raining, and even the best firms have run out of umbrellas. What is your firm doing about it?
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Kristi Durazo | June 22, 2010 at 12:28 pm
This is certainly a timely post and it brings to mind the SFChron interview with Ray Kurzweil from Sunday’s edition (http://bit.ly/93f5al ). I particularly like his observation that “since we picked up the first stick to reach a higher branch, we’ve always used tools to extend our reach…that is what is unique about human beings: we change ourselves to overcome limitations…because changing ourselves is what being human is all about.”
He goes on to point out that “only the exponential growth of technology will provide the scale to solve the major challenges of humanity.”
I think great examples include: mobile technology to bring healthcare to the most remote corners of the world, or to bring fair trading markets to rural fishing villages or the fact that I can text my kids from where ever I am and stay in touch.
Technology and humanity are not mutually exclusive. And technology does not exist as good or evil. In my opinion to reject the power of technology and change because it might bring with it some unintended consequences, would be to reject solutions that can change our world for the better. THAT seems the most frightening “unintended consequence” of failing to embrace change–to have the power to do good and to not act upon it. That would be a failure of humanity.
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Kent Bottles | June 23, 2010 at 1:20 pm
We should probably factor in the whole singularity movement in this discussion.http://ow.ly/22msa
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Christine Kraft | June 24, 2010 at 7:02 pm
Absolutely brilliant read, Kent. The quote that resonates with me is:
“The technology is rewiring our brain,” said Nora Volkow of the National Institute of Drug Abuse, and she compares the lure of digital stimulation to our need for food and sex, which are essential but counterproductive in excess. (http://ow.ly/21cow)
“Rewiring” implies that we are rerouting, disconnecting, and reconfiguring the logic and meaning of basic objects/structures. We are bound to be counterproductive as we find our way.
Honor the power of this stuff and use it judiciously.
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Kent Bottles | July 5, 2010 at 9:00 am
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http://ow.ly/276YM Times reporter tries to talk with robot Bina48 (based on spouse of self-made millionaire); Robot cost $125,000. This link takes you to a fascinating article where a New York Times reporter tries to interview and get to know a robot that is based on a real person. The reporter starts to treat the robot as a real person even though the robot is not really ready for prime time, yet.
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kent Bottles | July 5, 2010 at 9:02 am
http://ow.ly/276Sf Devices to soothe, support, keep us company emerge from the lab. Paro the seal robot on front page of the New York Times. This article addresses many of the same issues as this blog post.
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kent bottles | July 5, 2010 at 9:26 am
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http://ow.ly/277zc Video of paro the baby harp seal robot bonds with elderly in retirement home in DC.
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kent bottles | July 5, 2010 at 9:28 am
http://ow.ly/277EF Annotated bibliography of artificial intelligence in New York Times. Good reference
http://ow.ly/277Cx Annotated bibliography of New York TImes articles about robots. Good reference resource